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  • Clin4
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    i think yes but i never cared about that, but we could join my server to test that xd

    Yuuki_GGentleman
    Same, so im not really sure about the positioning, gonna get up again and join ya..;D


  • Clin4
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    i think yes but i never cared about that, but we could join my server to test that xd

    Yuuki_GGentleman
    Yep, the spot where h4ving aimed at is lower than the inside, he wouldnt have hit shit when the bullet went trough and an enemy was on the other side hugging the wall (highest point if you dont try to climb it).. 


  • Clin4
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    so we are mainly talking about this part of the video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8dYcS_PCp8&feature=youtu.be&t=74
    ( 1:14 until 1:37 )

    let the ANAL-ysis begin :
    as u can see he killed 1 Guy : https://gyazo.com/8d4e3662a191d061b286149a92f65fe0
    and here we wiped the team : https://gyazo.com/d59ee56c9f5cc78da5f1c3f824311042
                  maybe the first one did already respawn , i dont know

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    https://gyazo.com/6a642ea0ac0067040eb214ff8fa48886 This shows there are only 4 players in a diffrent Team
    i dont remember if someone joined in between 

    OH WAIT https://gyazo.com/3c97ed48c67a04df39ed78544aa6b623 looks like it didn`t , .. hmmm.. sooou the team was wiped when he started spraying the wall ?

    Also

    i asked h4fuck if he has some minutes :
    https://youtu.be/JbNmJTf8Ubs

    we tried to rebuild the wished scenario of someone actually being behind that wall

    and I wasnt even aiming high enough, according to this shitty video evidence where someone forgot that if he tabs out the recorded screen minimizes :kekw: :Ukiyu: 
    : https://gyazo.com/cf96e240649c602d19e08b2ba596ffc6


    Proofvideo : https://gyazo.com/6316b1f0111d6eee6bfd27ec230593dc
    My : https://gyazo.com/259986128887c8f284342590a7660294

    so h4ving was aiming at the hight of the right box, right ?

    which means he was , if the person would run around outside , at max.  , shooting at that persons Dorito above the Head 

    xD

  • Clin4
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    So what this does show is that h4ving WAS shooting at circa head level to people on the other side of that wall.

    And whats great about what Gentleman did is that he actually got h4ving to take part in his own video construction.

    As ive always said.

    Two shot positions

    1st - original video

    https://imgur.com/HCccDWi

    2nd - reconstructed.

    https://imgur.com/OmGLQYf

    H4ving is shooting thru a wall at a person on the other side. Nothing to do with gun calibration nonsense.

    Conclusion imho = WALLHACK


  • Clin4
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    So what this does show is that h4ving WAS shooting at circa head level to people on the other side of that wall.

    And whats great about what Gentleman did is that he actually got h4ving to take part in his own video construction.

    As ive always said.

    Two shot positions

    1st - original video

    https://imgur.com/HCccDWi

    2nd - reconstructed.

    https://imgur.com/OmGLQYf

    H4ving is shooting thru a wall at a person on the other side. Nothing to do with gun calibration nonsense.

    Conclusion imho = WALLHACK


    Kraichek
    Simple but honest question; are you braindead or mentally "left behind"?

    First off; he aimed on head level for his floor, the other floor is way below that.

    Second; there was no enemy when he started shooting, cuz they were all dead.


  • Clin4
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    And there it is....the ad homien..

    First off; he aimed on head level for his floor, the other floor is way below that.

    The reconstructed video shows that his aim at head level is exactly within a mm (walking left to right) of the person outside, and as you put it if he hugged the wall (right to left) which of course its again probable that the player done that (you always provide the probability of the negative against) again within a mm his aim is AT THE PLAYER - SEE THE SCREENSHOT!

    FFS THE AIM IS EXACTLY ON HIM.

    And the video - h4ving is outside in the reconstructed video and the aim of the person inside is EXACTLY on his head.

    FFS...watch the reconstructed video - i also gave you the screenshot to assist!

    Second; there was no enemy when he started shooting, cuz they were all dead.

    No, they were all dead 10 secs later when they had emerged from outside after spawning thru the gates AFTER he shot at the wall...

    FFS mate learn to watch......
  • Clin4
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    And there it is....the ad homien..

    First off; he aimed on head level for his floor, the other floor is way below that.

    The reconstructed video shows that his aim at head level is exaclty within a mm of the person outside - SEE THE SCREENSHOT!

    Second; there was no enemy when he started shooting, cuz they were all dead.

    No, they were all dead 10 secs later AFTER he shot at the wall...

    FFS mate learn to watch......
    Kraichek
    The screenshot shows yuukis crosshair above the other persons dorito/name, thats not the persons head since those hover a good bit over the player. 
    Next thing is, Yuuki was aiming lower than H4ving, which brings Yuukis crosshair even closer to the other persons head. There was literally space for 2 more heads between h4vings crosshair and the nonexisting enemy.

    And because you seem to be resistant to these visual demonstrated facts, i asked the question about your mental state.


  • Clin4
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    Mate i run a business that turns over £6 million with 34 operatives.

    Degree in Mech Engineering....

    My mental state is 100% - im Wealthy and healthy thank you!

    Im looking at the video, i transposed BOTH screenshots and the aim by yukki is exactly the same AIM in the original video.

    Yukki went to the pains of making sure HIS AIM and the Original videos AIM was concise!

    H4ving runs across left to right (walking/running) and the crosshair and fire transpose at the person. What you are trying to say is that the aim has to be 110% when thats not the issue, we know ITS NOT AIMBOT....

    We are talking WALLHACK - you are confusing the two.

    H4ving FIRES at THE PERSON at the outside. It just happens to be also COINCIDENTALLY NEAR his head.

    If YOU do not want to see whats in the VIDEO thats not my problem. You are the one thats quite resistant to what is the visual.

    Do you own transposing.


  • Clin4
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    Mate i run a business that turns over £6 million with 34 operatives.

    Degree in Mech Engineering....

    My mental state is 100% - im Wealthy and healthy thank you!

    Im looking at the video, i transposed BOTH screenshots and the aim by yukki is exactly the same AIM in the original video.

    Yukki went to the pains of making sure HIS AIM and the Original videos AIM was concise!

    H4ving runs across left to right (walking/running) and the crosshair and fire transpose at the person. What you are trying to say is that the aim has to be 110% when thats not the issue, we know ITS NOT AIMBOT....

    We are talking WALLHACK - you are confusing the two.

    H4ving FIRES at THE PERSON at the outside. It just happens to be also COINCIDENTALLY NEAR his head.

    If YOU do not want to see whats in the VIDEO thats not my problem. You are the one thats quite resistant to what is the visual.

    Do you own transposing.


    Kraichek
    And i was the first person on the moon :D

    Yuuki literally said he was NOT aiming high enough.. a.k.a. h4ving aimed higher..

    And no, i dont confuse aimbot and wh.. you said he was shooting at the not existing enemy behind that wall, and if he would have done so, he would be on the target, not 2 miles above it.. use some common sense..


  • Clin4
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    You didnt transpose.

    I stated as i overlaid the videos showing the aims that they were concisely the same position.

    Meaning that Gentleman carried out a good analysis.

    Ok we can leave it there i think.

  • Clin4
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    You didnt transpose.

    I stated as i overlaid the videos showing the aims that they were concisely the same position.

    Meaning that Gentleman carried out a good analysis.

    Ok we can leave it there i think.

    Kraichek
    Yuuki linked his evidence here, why dont you do that as well? Maybe someone is talking massive bs? 



    Yeah.. absolutely the same hight.. no doubht about your story bruh..


  • Clin4
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    Seeing this video I would say it stands for itself, no further evidence is needed He knew where they were when they spawned.

    He several times changed direction out of the blue to go for other players where he surely couldnt hear them.

    He several times prefired at targets not yet there so unless he had massive lag on said server he knew someone would show up

    to "catch" his bullets anyway aka prefire too many times to be considered lucky.

    Firing AK12 into the wall to test ? test what ? He got 1760 kills with it as I write this so I find it odd to test a well known weapon by firing at medium range into a wall. Did you btw. look at the spread from the fire he made onto the wall ?

    If you add his general stats into it I think he did/is cheating. This part I wont comment on further hence we use different stats tools than BF4DB

    and the whole scenario is up to BF4DB staff to evaluate on.

    I find it unfortunate that other members of same clan/platoon call posters and commenters for mentally challenged trying to bait the conversation into

    another direction, keep the cool and be realistic instead. 


    regards

    0ld_yell0w



  • Clin4
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    Seeing this video I would say it stands for itself, no further evidence is needed He knew where they were when they spawned.

    He several times changed direction out of the blue to go for other players where he surely couldnt hear them.

    He several times prefired at targets not yet there so unless he had massive lag on said server he knew someone would show up

    to "catch" his bullets anyway aka prefire too many times to be considered lucky.

    Firing AK12 into the wall to test ? test what ? He got 1760 kills with it as I write this so I find it odd to test a well known weapon by firing at medium range into a wall. Did you btw. look at the spread from the fire he made onto the wall ?

    If you add his general stats into it I think he did/is cheating. This part I wont comment on further hence we use different stats tools than BF4DB

    and the whole scenario is up to BF4DB staff to evaluate on.

    I find it unfortunate that other members of same clan/platoon call posters and commenters for mentally challenged trying to bait the conversation into

    another direction, keep the cool and be realistic instead. 


    regards

    0ld_yell0w



    0ld_yell0w
    That wasnt meant as insult, i honestly think he could be. The only other thing could be him trolling us, but i dont think he is..

    This is the same situation he had with STAFF members already.. "Thats Aimbot! Thats Aimbot!" - litterally what aimbot doesnt look like.. [Answer to him by Angry_Cuban13]
    This is the same shit just with WH accusation.
    Everyone who thinks that the Video shows cheat, doesnt know what cheats look like.


  • Clin4
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    why do you protect a cheater when the burden of proof in the video already shows it?

    they probably cheat themselves.... BF4DB swings the ban hammer

  • Clin4
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    why do you protect a cheater when the burden of proof in the video already shows it?

    they probably cheat themselves.... BF4DB swings the ban hammer

    III-Hakai-III
    Maybe because he isnt cheating and you are making stuff up/ seeing cheats where no cheats are??? :)