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  • AimTraining
    User
    Member since September 08, 2018

    Hello,

    I am using this side since years and I want to address  an issue that really annoys me.  In my opinion, the ban policy is not rational, when it comes to not headshot only aimbotting.

    The problem is the following: If you encounter a cheater which is obviously using an aimbot, you only can get him banned here, if he used a high headshot percentage in his aimbot settings. Otherwise you will have to provide a video here. So, basically it is impossible to ban these kind of cheaters when the server does not allow to spectate (which happens very often).


    Let me show you an example: https://bf4db.com/player/ban/800837087

    This dude made the typical european tryhard servers unplayable about 2 months ago. For every good player, it was very obvious, that this guy is cheating. I think, that the stated Battelreports in combination with his stats/profile describtion and sudden skill changes are more than enough to see, that this guy is indeed a cheater. But no, marked as clean. So, what happend to this guy then if he is a "clean" player?

    Did he become super good over night? Did he sell his account to a pro player? If you go from a <6% average accuracy to 25%+ AEK accuracy over night, you probably are not legit. If you are a super human and managed to get this good overnight, you probably can also provide a footage of your gameplay, so a "suspect stats" ban would be reasonable.



    Okay, so here is a second example, that makes me even sadder: https://bf4db.com/player/ban/1004258865137

    Especially this very smart comment: "Under no circumstances are body locked aimbots obvious if you only provide battle reports."

    Same thing here, obviously cheating but only playing on non spectate server or he stops playing when you start to spectate him (which is an indicator that he uses aimware, since you got a spectator warning there).

    I think that it would be better to ban players (suspect stats), if they fullfill the following requirements:

    1. New Account
    2. Giant skill gain in the recent Battleports, starting on a specific point (when they start cheating, you will see it in the BRs). This helps to filter out smurfs.
    3. Untypical accuracies and stats compared to the rest of the profile for at least 5 BRs
    4. Almost only playing on official servers or stopping to play when they get spectated (consistently)
    5. Scoring very good at other cheaters (HvsH)
    6. (Playing with already banned cheaters, see first link)

    If you stuck to your ban policy, it will be impossible to play official servers, since the majority already does not use headshot-locked-aimbots.


    Cheers







  • AimTraining
    Retired Staff
    Member since May 05, 2017

    Players are innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

    We can't keep cheaters from playing on official servers anyways, so not really sure what you are ranting about.

  • AimTraining
    User
    Member since September 08, 2018


    "

    Players are innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

    We can't keep cheaters from playing on official servers anyways, so not really sure what you are ranting about.

    Angry_Cuban13

    Okay, so please tell me when do you prove "suspect stats" bans guilty?


    Its not about the prove guilty points, its about what you define to be an evidence.


    You cannot ban people on officials so you refuse to ban them at all? Makes no sense.



  • AimTraining
    User
    Member since January 23, 2019

    autismtraining living up to his name it seems

  • AimTraining
    User
    Member since September 08, 2018


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    autismtraining living up to his name it seems

    Du

    I wonder what went wrong in your life, bad upbringing or just self trained toxicness?

    Edit: This was more a rhetorical question, I don't give a fck tbh. :)


  • AimTraining
    User
    Member since August 18, 2017

    No wonder such a player like you will cry on that, ppl use stolen accounts to be unknown for others.

  • AimTraining
    Administrator
    Member since January 04, 2018

    If this thread turns into an open war I'll have to close it, just saying.
  • AimTraining
    User
    Member since September 08, 2018


    "
    If this thread turns into an open war I'll have to close it, just saying.
    TheNotoriousDoge

    Maybe just delete entries from people, that are obviously just here to insult or troll. :>


  • AimTraining
    Retired Staff
    Member since May 05, 2017

    Seeing as how our ban policy doesn't specify anything about banning in official or ranked servers, once again I'm not sure what you're going on about.

    Our ban policy is simple and it sure isn't going to change based off some essay someone wrote who fails to understand that players shouldn't be guilty until proven innocent.

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