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What changes in policy makes cheaters non cheaters ? there isn't no grey area when peoples games and evening are ruined by people cheating or exploiting.

Cheat once that's it, done ! regardless of patreon support.

Mark Filby

Ah yes, don't worry. We as an anti-cheat service will gladly take on this advice and weaken our policy to allow cheating and make sure to prioritise those who give us the financial incentive to do so!

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So I ask again what changes in policy lead to somebody banned, no longer a cheater and gets a ban lifted ?

Mark Filby

Does it happen to you to read appeal transcripts?

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This is about our policy from Punkbuster bans.
You can see more detailed here.
https://bf4db.com/forum/thread/punkbuster-bans-permanently-suspended-2777

''Our linked account policy will remain the same: All accounts linked to bans issued for violations prior to 2/1/18 will be banned according to our banning policy. All accounts linked to bans issued for violations after 2/1/18 will remain unbanned as long as no other proof of cheating is present.''

Frank_Castle

effectively trusting past cheats not to cheat again ? I'm not sure I would leave my kids with Rolf Harris even if he'd been found not guilty

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This is about our policy from Punkbuster bans.
You can see more detailed here.
https://bf4db.com/forum/thread/punkbuster-bans-permanently-suspended-2777

''Our linked account policy will remain the same: All accounts linked to bans issued for violations prior to 2/1/18 will be banned according to our banning policy. All accounts linked to bans issued for violations after 2/1/18 will remain unbanned as long as no other proof of cheating is present.''

Frank_Castle

effectively trusting past cheats not to cheat again ? I'm not sure I would leave my kids with Rolf Harris even if he'd been found not guilty

Mark Filby

My 2 cents...

You're not reading it properly. Any player that gets banned for hacking etc, receives a ban. Any alternate account they create also gets banned as a linked account.

What Frank posted is regarding punkbuster bans. Due to people receiving dodgy global punkbuster bans, BF4DB no longer ban alternate accounts of those players (unless evidence of some other cheating/hacking is evident). There is some speculation out there that punkbuster has detected a game hack after people have installed updates to their nvidia drivers for example. My understanding in this matter is that punkbuster issues a global ban with no corresponding violation number (a global ban) as opposed to a specific violation number (e.g. #60000's = wallhack, #70000's = multihack etc).

So no, hackers don't get second chances. Those people who can show that they have been given a dodgy punkbuster ban won't have their alternate accounts banned as a linked account as a result of their main account receiving a punkbuster ban.